#145 Chris Garbage & Michael Rizzo (Declared Ungovernable)

The Story of Declared Ungovernable: Chris Garbage & Michael Rizzo on the History of the Winter Park Florida Punks, 80s Scene, and More

In this episode, we're joined by Chris Garbage and Michael Rizzo, founding members of Winter Park hardcore punk band Declared Ungovernable, for a deep dive into the band's origins, Florida's 1980s punk scene, and eventual reunion decades later. Chris and Michael trace their friendship back to middle school, where they bonded as outsiders and discovered punk rock after seeing Minor Threat in Winter Park. What began as a teenage band called Florida's Unwanted Children eventually evolved into Declared Ungovernable, a name inspired by Chris's personal experiences and the rebellious spirit that fueled the group.

The conversation explores the DIY world that shaped the band, from recording sessions, homemade merchandise, skate contests, house parties, and shows across Orlando, Tampa, Cocoa Beach, Miami, and beyond. Chris and Michael share memories of playing with bands including RKL and The Meatmen, along with stories about the musicians, promoters, artists, friends, and family who helped support them. Chris also discusses the difficult home life that influenced many of the band's songs, while both reflect on building a following without the internet, social media, or industry connections.

Chris and Michael also discuss the musical differences that eventually led to Declared Ungovernable's breakup, the band's music continuing to resonate with fans over the decades, and the reunion performances that followed. They reflect on what they accomplished as teenagers, the surprising longevity of the band's legacy, and the friendships that have survived nearly forty years since those first rehearsals in Winter Park.